tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post184734598568582213..comments2023-11-05T16:19:05.197+08:00Comments on Unam Sanctam: Attacked and maligned - stating the truth in charityAndrewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09356738924839809045noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-64438840643712547512010-02-10T21:41:49.232+08:002010-02-10T21:41:49.232+08:00Nice blog as for me. I'd like to read somethin...Nice blog as for me. I'd like to read something more concerning this topic. The only thing I would like to see on that blog is some pics of any devices.<br />Nickolas Flouee<br /><a href="http://www.jammer-store.com/" rel="nofollow">Cell jammer</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-75529800572577469272009-03-01T03:42:00.001+08:002009-03-01T03:42:00.001+08:00The parish priest does not need to recieve special...The parish priest does not need to recieve special permission for female altar servers, it is something he decides at a diocesean level.<BR/>The use of terms such as 'female altar boys' or 'altar waitresses' is highly insulting as well as incorrect. It highlights that the basis of your objections as misgyny. I hope you go to confession before you recieve communion as you are in a state of mortal sin, you hypocrites.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-86736761932660648892009-03-01T03:42:00.000+08:002009-03-01T03:42:00.000+08:00The parish priest does not need to recieve special...The parish priest does not need to recieve special permission for female altar servers, it is something he decides at a diocesean level.<BR/>The use of terms such as 'female altar boys' or 'altar waitresses' is highly insulting as well as incorrect. It highlights that the basis of your objections as misgyny. I hope you go to confession before you recieve communion as you are in a state of mortal sin, you hypocrites.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-31430869216336688032009-02-03T15:05:00.000+08:002009-02-03T15:05:00.000+08:00benny boy,the parish priest did not receive the pe...benny boy,<BR/><BR/>the parish priest did not receive the permission of the ordinary for the altar waitress <BR/><BR/>go figureAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-39634009001749943522009-02-01T03:16:00.000+08:002009-02-01T03:16:00.000+08:00correctio for above...should read: canonically.i o...correctio for above...<BR/><BR/>should read: canonically.<BR/><BR/>i obviously type quicker than my keyboard can keep up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-19050910871209682622009-02-01T03:14:00.000+08:002009-02-01T03:14:00.000+08:00brandon, your comment does not make any sense to m...brandon, your comment does not make any sense to me.<BR/><BR/>the parish priest is responsible for formation and supervision of altar servers in his parish. he may delegate someone (in this case the jumped up MC - andrew) to help him in aspects of this duty but nonetheless he himself remains responsible as parish priest. it is the parish priest's responsibility to correct this matter and injustice, which i would think should include a public statement to the parish with a clarification on the correct status of female altar servers - ie permitted and anonically lawful. if the said MC has a difficulty with this then he would be free to resign his honorary post or have his duties relieved from him. i do not know if there is an issue of the PP and liturgical irregularities but even so (or especially so even) he still holds responsibility to act legally and pastorally.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-91496265486436463482009-01-20T10:54:00.000+08:002009-01-20T10:54:00.000+08:00big benny,how can the parish priest takes action w...big benny,<BR/><BR/>how can the parish priest takes action when he also is subjected to investigations for abuse of the eucharist and abuse of the mass<BR/><BR/>maybe big benny should take a look at church documents regarding altar boys or servers before you be struck silly<BR/><BR/>brandonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-40661918989292566842009-01-18T09:01:00.000+08:002009-01-18T09:01:00.000+08:00correction from above....In fact, there are no suc...correction from above....<BR/><BR/>In fact, there are no such things as 'altar boys', the correct term used in church documents as you probably know is altar server (ie gender neutral).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-34043957792584485792009-01-18T09:00:00.000+08:002009-01-18T09:00:00.000+08:00Andrew, your use of the term 'girl altar boy' is h...Andrew, your use of the term 'girl altar boy' is highly insulting an incorrect. In fact, there are no such things as 'altar boys', the correct term used in church documents as you probably know is altar boys (ie gender neutral). Altar boys is a colloqial term with no official reference.<BR/>The reason that female altar servers are not used at the vatican is that cathedral services are served by semenarians (it is one of there official functions) who are obviously male only (at this time). In parish churches, boys have traditionally been used to take the place of absent semenarians for serving mass. However, with the reform of cano law, there is no direct impediment for girls acting as altar servers if the local bishop has permitted it (and the officiating priest does not object). It's not your personal choice since you are neither the local bishop or officating priest so i respectfully suggest you shut your mouth and keep your opinions to yourself.<BR/>I am very suprised that your parish priest has not taken stonger actions against you. I am glad you have removed the spiteful and vindictive photographs although your comments since still do not display any charity whatsoever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-50873919613392398732009-01-11T22:15:00.000+08:002009-01-11T22:15:00.000+08:00Andrew. Gr8 name btw. I disagree. There's definite...Andrew. Gr8 name btw. <BR/><BR/>I disagree. There's definitely something very wrong with girl altar boys as I've explained.<BR/><BR/><I>You</I> know the difference between instituted lectors and those deputed to serve in that capacity. <BR/><BR/>Firstly, do other people know the difference? Do you know why there are no permanently instituted lectors? Because the bishops fear that this appears discriminatory as this instituted ministry is only open to males. The same for acolytes. So political correctness has consequences.<BR/><BR/>This opening of the ministry is a political statement which aims to open Holy Orders to women.<BR/><BR/>Is it important? Yes. Everything we do in the worship of God is important. Because it involves the worship of God. For example, in the Old Testament, the Lord gave minute and detailed instructions pertaining to His worship. These ranged from the dimensions of His Ark, the altars, the materials and construction, the garments of the priests. This is the same God and Father of Our Lord Jesus Christ. He found it important enough to do so and so the Catholic Church of today finds it important as well and that is why the liturgy is regulated. We who worship in Spirit and in Truth should be even more particular about how we worship Our God Whom we know to be living and true.<BR/><BR/>Lex orandi, lex credendi, the law of prayer is the law of belief. What we pray and how we pray affect our belief, so yes, it is important.<BR/><BR/>As for adolescent kids, they are different degrees of the same kind, eg male.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09356738924839809045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-29131274178714230412009-01-11T11:29:00.000+08:002009-01-11T11:29:00.000+08:00Nothing wrong with altar girls. They serve a role ...Nothing wrong with altar girls. They serve a role and as we know altar servers in our parishes aren't instituted as acolytes just like our lectors. <BR/>You write of not seeing altar girls at papal masses but I ask you do you see adolescent kids serving at those masses?<BR/>Main point of me commenting, is it really important? Does it add or subtract from worship at Mass to have female altar servers?androoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13784181252698439687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-49816678430329531782009-01-09T17:44:00.000+08:002009-01-09T17:44:00.000+08:00Hi Master Andrew,Wow........u got yourself in a "f...Hi Master Andrew,<BR/><BR/>Wow........u got yourself in a "fight" this time. When actually did this whole thing started? Izzit when i left Malaysia? Joeyshinoda has her own stand i see BUT u have already anwsered all her questions. I think it is personal n not "church" thing. However, i'm not to judge anyone. I won't know who is right and who is wrong in the first place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-78514764752441341432009-01-08T11:48:00.000+08:002009-01-08T11:48:00.000+08:00Kelvyn,Sent you an email. I understand that and as...Kelvyn,<BR/><BR/>Sent you an email. I understand that and as I said, as fallen creatures, we all make mistakes sometimes. I'll be the first to admit that and also be the first to admit I personally make a huge number of them and am far from exemplary. Jesus is our role model and example.<BR/><BR/>That's why I try to explain why I said what I said. I'm willing to take the heat for it, online and off because I believe in the truth of my statements and, if you'll note the addendums, am willing to correct the things I feel need correction.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for commenting and thanks for dropping by.<BR/><BR/>Cheers.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09356738924839809045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-55106406988360864732009-01-08T08:23:00.000+08:002009-01-08T08:23:00.000+08:00Dear Brandon...Nope, KL does not reshuffle that of...Dear Brandon...<BR/><BR/>Nope, KL does not reshuffle that often...(coz I go to the Archdiocese on often... so might just stumble on transfers/studies :-D ) the last reshuffle was like in years ago bout two-three... Any wayz if there were ever a reshuffle, the priests would usually go for studies not transfers... I noticed in the Penang Diocese, transfers happen often? I think I'm a bit clear on why his Lordship was appointed Bishop of Penang and Archbishop Emeritus Soter appointed Archbishop of KL... By the way Bishop Anthony was previously Auxiliary Bishop of KL b4 he became Bishop of Penang...:-)Aaron Alammalayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10414455469928650501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-21110418135359443392009-01-07T19:05:00.000+08:002009-01-07T19:05:00.000+08:00Sorry,Popeah was me, the previous user left the co...Sorry,<BR/><BR/>Popeah was me, the previous user left the computer still logged in, and thats how i stumbled on your blog. So i am the one who deserves the discredit.<BR/><BR/>I know it may sound hypocritical, and i speak for myself only. In no way am i claiming to be exemplary. And i do think you have a very interesting and informative blog. But i guess it could use some filtering. If a non believer sees this, it aint that nice la.. if you know what i mean.<BR/><BR/>anyway cheers. we all get angry sometimes anyway. :).<BR/><BR/>wanted to send you a private message actually but couldn't :)Kelvyn Yeanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03184004324051273839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-26278178634807289822009-01-07T17:22:00.000+08:002009-01-07T17:22:00.000+08:00don,I heard that there is going to be some major r...don,<BR/><BR/>I heard that there is going to be some major reshuffle of priest in kl archdiocese ...betulkah???<BR/><BR/>brandonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-55500912308652217282009-01-07T16:07:00.000+08:002009-01-07T16:07:00.000+08:00I'm not worried by the 1 reader does all, coz, @ l...I'm not worried by the 1 reader does all, coz, @ least someone has the decency to do it. As for the genuflecting after the elevation of the sacred species, I could not say much... I can't blame India either. Coz the bowing after consecration was specifically allowed for that country, but others seem to abuse it... Oh ya and I've changed my link... to match my C.O.A.<BR/><BR/>http://mundacorme.blogspot.com<BR/><BR/>(sorry could not get mundacormeum coz someone else took it first) LOLAaron Alammalayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10414455469928650501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-8746889381333643482009-01-07T08:09:00.000+08:002009-01-07T08:09:00.000+08:00that is what is happening in the churches ....I du...that is what is happening in the churches ....I dun blame vatican 2 but the way it was hijack by the liberals ..so many types of masses these days ..<BR/><BR/>my church is now undergoing renovation on the altar and the interiors ...i dread to think of the outcome ...<BR/><BR/>BrandonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-32572369909354075512009-01-06T23:31:00.000+08:002009-01-06T23:31:00.000+08:00i agreelet's bomb her housei agree<BR/>let's bomb her houseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-21076262856447166612009-01-06T23:28:00.000+08:002009-01-06T23:28:00.000+08:00hello people of israel.time to bomb jocelyn's hous...hello people of israel.<BR/>time to bomb jocelyn's house.<BR/>hahahahahha<BR/>don't mind me im just crapping<BR/>lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-40831087230316299262009-01-06T21:49:00.000+08:002009-01-06T21:49:00.000+08:00All I pray for is that I do not go back to a churc...All I pray for is that I do not go back to a church which has worse liturgical abuses than those I have encountered here in Ireland. Some of you will be interested to note that for the main mass today, we had no homily, one lector read all the readings, no genuflecting by the priest, mass time of 25 minutes, and of course- a collection!<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrxZFY27lzQ&NR=1M@rKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03064818748499161252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-8470638957073962652009-01-06T21:29:00.000+08:002009-01-06T21:29:00.000+08:00In the interest of fairness, I have to note that "...In the interest of fairness, I have to note that "POPEAH HO CHIAK" is, in fact, the sister of the girl altar boy. Perhaps she intended to post anonymously but forgot to log off. I don't know.<BR/><BR/>Jocelyn,<BR/><BR/>No need to hide your identity. If you have some something to say it's good to just say it. Although the "I'm just an observer" part is pretty hilarious lol. Your language in this post is good and decent by the way. Keep it up.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09356738924839809045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-92034802343584100082009-01-06T19:26:00.000+08:002009-01-06T19:26:00.000+08:00Hello,im just an observer. But honestly... if you ...Hello,<BR/><BR/>im just an observer. But honestly... if you guys keep on with this,,, not only is it un -christ like but i think its just gonna stumble many others.<BR/><BR/>shud deal with it face to face. Im no holy poly, but honestly... guys ... u all serve in church.. you want others to come read this?.....<BR/><BR/>anyway may i suggest that you try the new starbucks cherry blended drink. realll sweeeettttt.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-37163997275148650382009-01-06T19:16:00.000+08:002009-01-06T19:16:00.000+08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14011761.post-15936803588231832182009-01-06T14:57:00.000+08:002009-01-06T14:57:00.000+08:00u know I was at mass the other day in OLL and the ...u know I was at mass the other day in OLL and the priest Fr.John commented that we are losing our traditional values ...no respect for the eucharist , no kneeling , no sign of the cross and what does he do about it ...<BR/><BR/>he do not say the confiteor at mass...do not incense the altar , hindu type lamps during mass and others ...<BR/><BR/>so who is to be blame ...<BR/><BR/>BrandonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com